Advanced Structural Designs

  

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MGP Grades Vs F Grades

 

Anyone who has worked with timber will tell you that different species behave differently under varying types of loads, fail in different ways and generally behave like different materials.  This is not surprising as species have vastly different cellular structures.  The F Grading system attempts to lump all species (yes hardwoods and softwoods) together on the basis of flexural strength, and takes the lowest of all the remaining properties for the other parameters.

 

For the most part this system is acceptable as flexural strength is more often than not the most critical design parameter.  On the other hand Radiata, Slash and Caribbean Pine are similar in nature and represent a large and growing sector of the market.  It makes good commercial sense to group these together to make the most of their properties so that other properties such as stiffness and compressive strength are not effectively ‘dragged down’ by other timber species. The MGP grading system is an attempt to do just this.

 

To give you an idea of the benefits of the system take a look at the table below and compare the properties of F5 softwood with MGP10 (its equivalent flexural grade).

 

Grade

Characteristic Strength (MPa)

Modulus of Elasticity

(MPa)

Modulus of Rigidity

(MPa)

Bending f’b

 

Tension

f’t

 

Shear

f’b

 

Compression f’c

 

F5

16

8.2

1.8

12

6900

460

MGP10

16.2

8.9

5.0

23.6

10000

670

F8

25

13

2.5

20

9100

610

MGP12

28

15

6.5

28.9

12700

850

F14

40

21

3.7

30

12000

800

MGP15

41.3

22.7

9.1

35.4

15200

1010

 

What the comparison shows is that if you are designing say a timber stud for compression you have a strength gain of 96 percent by using MGP equivalent.  If deflection is the governing criteria for a lightly loaded beam you have a potential reduction in deflection of 44 percent.  Increases in shear strength are even more dramatic but the F Grade values are known to be conservative and you may note that AS1684 (Residential Framing Code) allows much higher values to be used and differentiates between hardwoods and softwoods (see appendix A).

 

We are not implying that MGP graded timber is that much stronger or stiffer than its F Grade equivalent.  The difference is that we are allowed to use the additional strength because certain manufacturers have invested money in both testing and quality assurance systems to justify the greater values.

 

You will see advertisements in the magazines claiming MGP pine to be more stable and have reduced shrinkage but we have seen no evidence to suggest that this is anything more than “marketing hype”.

 

What’s Happening Around Canberra

I rang around today (January 2002) to see what percentage of suppliers carried MGP grades and found about 80% were carrying them (most exclusively) although nobody seemed to understand that there was any difference between the two grading systems.  The price variations between the F5 and MGP10 were not consistent, with MGP10 even being cheaper in some instances.  Bunnings Warehouse only carried MGP10 and MGP12 which were often sold at the same price as they were bundled together on delivery.  AAJA carried mainly MGP10 and advised us that builders never wanted to pay the 10 to 12 percent premium on the MGP12 (note it is 72% stronger and 27% stiffer).  This is probably because builders are too far down the design process to take any advantage from the strength or stiffness gain.

 

FAW on the other hand had never heard of MGP and carried F5 90*45’s a little cheaper than most of the others.

 

What we do

Our current policy is to use the MGP grading system in design but to give an equivalent F grade where flexural strength proves to be the governing design factor.  This approach gives the builder the option to source cheaper timber where appropriate. 

 

Conclusions

For all builders there are opportunities to save money by having their designers use the MGP grading system, especially heavily loaded wall framing (such as in three storey walk-ups)where compressive capacity may govern or lightly loaded beams where stiffness governs.  Relative pricing changes daily so we give options wherever we can.

 

With other timber species and many innovative products on the market such as Hyspan, Hybeam, Posi-STRUT, Pryda Longreach, LVL, Easybeam and various cold formed steel solutions, the best answer is not always obvious and may depend on manpower and cranage available durability or bulk discounting by suppliers.

 

If you need some specific answers or just want a few options on floor, roof or wall framing  from a structural engineer in Canberra ACT call Mal Wilson from Advanced Structural Designs on (02) 61612171a call on Ph 02 61612171.

 

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